Intellectual Dishonesty, and a certain blogger

I was interested by a post I saw when I did something… added a comment perhaps?
So I looked at it, and I asked Questions.

Apparently, this is not a good thing to be doing.

The post in question was: Give me BLOOD N' Fire and I will REBUILD the World in HIS Image
I also looked at "
Overcoming Thought Control and Treading on ALL the Control Data"

As I posted responses, he would answer, and in less than 5 minutes, delete at least my question, and often his response.

He doesn't address my questions on his blog, and so I'm inviting him to address them on mine, where I'll see them, but his loyal fans don't have to.  The more I talk to him, the more I wonder about the nature of a man who dodges questions so much.

Responses to "Blood'n'Fire"

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well…  fortunately, I get to decide what I post. so I'm going to keep posting the comment history in my posts.  That's -my- choice.

Interesting how you went from "young man" in your previous post to "young woman".

All I'm asking is that you actually answer my questions. and I haven't had that happen yet.

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I wait with baited breath to see this Bio, and since it will also address my questions about your involvement with the group, I must assume you know the founder.

I make no claims that you shouldn't do what you choose to do, I'm simply asking for some clarification as to why you're doing them.

If your cause is just, why are you squelching my comments?  I would like to know what you expect me to see by that command. I'm already a Christian (I'm expecting that's what you mean by "You will See")

It is very interesting that you keep deleting my comments. Why are you afraid of some analytical questions appearing next to your work?

My previous comment and his response:

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Friends of Blood'n'Fire…

not what I asked for.

I want to know what Blood'n'Fire actually do. What they actually believe.

If you're not involved, why are you endorsing them, especially if you can't actually tell me what they are specifically.  (And by posting about them on this blog, you -are- endorsing them.) What is your connection with this group?

I would like to point out that although you have put a lot of references in your response (so many that I feel overwhelmed just looking at the list). Your headings don't actually equate to an answer to the questions I posed.

In particular, I asked about Values (I'm willing to accept what is already in this post, although I feel they are very broad), Focus, History, and "What we do". I'm guessing you've just given me a list of "What we do" although you say they're friends of the movement, rather than members or initiatives.

You switch from "Friends of Blood'n'Fire who share our heart…" to "I am not involved directly"  Why is that?

To Close, why exactly did you add the section from Hebrews and the scripture from Micah after I made my post?

Dylan

I am trying top locate the Bio on the Founder of Blood N' Fire which willa ddress your questions.

However, what I choose to do, I choose to do.

Young man I am going to touch your eyes and you will see, RIGHT NOW.

Mark

Dylan

I only keep things that really interest me.

If you didn't interest me , young woman, I would simply let you go and your comments with you.

YOu will definitely breathe, BUT it will be the Breath of the Life of the World.

YOU have already inhaled. SO EXHALE! into that John 3:8 wind.

If your comments interest me, I will keep them if they don't then I am going to let them go.

MY CHOICE.

Your rogation and interrogation is interesting and I will answer you BUT I DECIDE which comments I keep.

Mark

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And my responses to Mind Control:

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Dylan

If free will was an illusion why did Jesus choose the Cross in Gethsemane?

Our Freewill and the prevenient Grace of God's omniscience are in perpetual and convergent simultaneity to each other.

Try Breathing….you are hitting the constraints of your worldview.

Ideology is when ideas have us, Revelation is when we have HIS ideas about US.

There are two types of Headhunters in the world - those you do see coming and those that are trying to reprogramme your thoughtlife, which need to be taken captive in submission to the LORD Jesus Christ – 2 Corinthians 10:5…."We take every thought captive…"

If you have to ask, "who is programming you?" then you need the Cross. The MIND of Christ is revealed through the Cross of Christ.

Mark

Now, I'm a Christian, Baptised at 12, Church Elder @ 21, so your last statement is fairly useless.

The Mind of Christ is surely the Mind of God, and something that humanity is not equipped to deal with.

Absolutely, take every thought captive.  that's what I'm trying to do here, is take your thoughts as presented here, and process them.  I'm doing that, but without any of the evidence you obviously have available to you, I can't very well determine the validity of your statements as they apply to my life.

what thought control and programming phenomena are you talking about?

I'm actually not arguing that free will is an illusion.

What I'm saying is that according to your statement, is there a situation in which Free Will truly exists?

Free Will and God knowing what I'm going to do before I do it are always coming together at the same time. (I think I translated that right) No Problem.  I can deal with such an apparent paradox with no major difficulty.  (How does Omniscience have Grace, on a tangent)

Have I created a false dichotomy here?

If you have just said "every fallen human agency has a fallen spiritual agency motivating and directing their actions"  Then anything less than the carrying out of God's Will is indirectly, but ultimately attributable to the fallen spiritual agency doing the directing.  Much in the same way that the carrying out of God's Will is indirectly but ultimately attributable to God.  Are we attributing spiritual-realm powers and motivations to things which are simply an artefact of human free will?

I'm trying to break free of the contraints of my worldview, Help me out with that by answering the questions, perhaps by understanding what you mean, I can better understand the world.

In the meantime, you talk about the Control Data… what is that?

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Sorry they're not more complete, but it took a couple of postings before I realised what he was doing.

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15 thoughts on “Intellectual Dishonesty, and a certain blogger

  1. BUT.. this particular Fool has seen the World turning on its axis and Eternity in a pebble.
    "But the fool on the hillSees the sun going down,And the eyes in his head,See the world spinning 'round"
    From 'The Fool on the Hill' by the Beatles
    That particular Hill is on Fire….with the Burning Light of the Resurrection.

  2. Dylan
    If free will was an illusion why did Jesus choose the Cross in Gethsemane?
    Our Freewill and the prevenient Grace of God's omniscience are in perpetual and convergent simultaneity to each other.
    Try Breathing….you are hitting the constraints of your worldview.
    Ideology is when ideas have us, Revelation is when we have HIS ideas about US.
    There are two types of Headhunters in the world - those you do see
    coming and those that are trying to reprogramme your thoughtlife, which
    need to be taken captive in submission to the LORD Jesus Christ – 2
    Corinthians 10:5…."We take every thought captive…"
    If you have to ask, "who is programming you?" then you need the
    Cross. The MIND of Christ is revealed through the Cross of Christ.
    Mark

  3. I know you've stopped responding. But this is really irking me.So any criticism or question you find uninteresting is irrelevant?Even though you said "Your rogation and interrogation is interesting and I will answer you"In fact you meant: "Your rogation and interrogation is uninteresting and I will not answer you"I have no issue with people putting forward their views and beliefs. I would just like them to answer honestly when questions are asked, and for them to actually either answer the question or tell me they're not going to because it's not valid because x,y,z, or because they don't know at the moment.Am I being too much? Am I really missing the point? Perhaps… but with nothing to guide me on where I'm going wrong, how can I ask better questions, and how can I figure out whether this is something I really want to investigate anyway?I'm interested when Christian Movements spring up, so I asked about it, who they are, what they do. I wondered about his interpretation of free will and "fallen agencies", so I asked about that too. Applying my relentless logic as I went, I admit. The only Comments I see on he left on his blog entries are either unquestioning and/or flattering, or responses he made to the prior statements. There isn't one thing which asks him anything like to explain what he's written. Just lots of flowery talk about how wonderful God is. (now don't get me wrong, I think he's wonderful too, but do these people use that language every day?)Jargon is meant to be confusing and meant to make the reader give up and just accept. his posts are full of Jargon, pumped out at a prodigious rate, (there have been 4 lengthy posts since I first responded to Blood'n'Fire). This is my cry, watch out for guys like this who just wanna suck you in… To what? I wonder how he's really tied to that group, whether he has a book in the pipes, or is going on a preaching circuit anytime soon? Religion and Spirituality is great, and I think humanity is made the richer for the experience of divinity we get through our spirituality, but I think we always have to keep our critical thinking caps on, regardless of whether we're reading someone's blog, sitting in church on Sunday, or trawling the web as part of research or study.

  4. By the way Dylan, thinking doesn't interest me – I already have two Academic degrees ad Ia m professionally qualified so you are going to ahve to exchange your thoughts for heartbeats – because I KNOW why BLOOD n' Fire interests you and waht will happen next…so come on Dylan, sock it to me and I will see what you are really made of….remember with Prophetics I can hear your Heartbeat. We miss nothing. So child interrogate me.

  5. You don't have to like me. I just wish you'd answer when you say you will. I'm glad you responded though.You say "sock it to me", but I'm not looking for a fight, just the answers to the questions I posted
    (some (and I suspect all) of which have absolutely no relevance to my knowledge about
    prophetics).regarding my "interrogation", I had no questions other than the ones outlined above. However: Tell me why Blood'n'Fire interests me, if you truly know, and what will happen next, for that matter.If you can hear my heartbeat, why did you refer to me as young man in one message, and young woman the next? (I'm a man, by the way)In brief, a prophet is a being in direct communication with God about God's plan, or someone through whom God speaks. Prophets may, as in classical mythology, and some sections of the bible, be foretelling the future, but often their commentary is for the time they live in. If prophecy is delivered to one person in Tongues, then a second person must be able to translate. Also, I understand that this communication is at God's beck and call, rather than the prophet's. "with Prophetics I can hear your Heartbeat" suggests that you really control this gift of yours, and can zoom it in on someone.My understanding of Prophetics is limited fairly much to a conceptual understanding. And I'd like my readers to be able to understand your answer, so if you can make sure your answer explains anything not stated in the above paragraph, that'd be good.You have 2 Academic degrees and are professionally qualified. But "thinking doesn't interest" you. Depending on your profession that scares me, and I wonder if your clients are aware of your view on that. I am quite capable of having both thoughts and heartbeats simultaneously, and extra heartbeats really aren't healthy. I listen to my heart, and I listen to my head, and situations dictate which has the greater influence at the time. I listened to my heart when I decided to view your blog, but to my head when I started looking deeper and found little.I look forward to your response

  6. Dylan
    I read through your response. Unfortunately, it doesn't interest me enough to devote time and energy to this type of Conversation. Thanks for the interest.
    So – A Jargon King with minion code words? Next!
    This really is my final response.
    Mark

  7. And there we have it. He's unwilling to answer even simple questions or back up a single claim. He refuses to respond and explain why his statements clearly contradict each other.Is this someone interested in Enlightenment?Jargon King – totally.Where did "minion code words" come from? I'd like to know.Finally… The reason I don't know much about "Prophetics", and in fact spoke about Prophets and Prophecy, is because "Prophetics" is not a word defined in the english language. It has gained widespread use, however, and all my research seems to indicate that Prophetics are actually the people who prophesy, (Proh-feh-SIE) whom I have referred to as Prophets. (In 4 pages from a google search on "define prophetics" I didn't actually find a definition, and dictionary.com drew a blank.)No, I don't know much about Prophetics as a group of people. do they need to be dealt with in a certain way?"this type of Conversation": why the capital C? What type exactly? The only thing which stands out about this conversation is that I'm asking you questions.

  8. "He refuses to respond and explain why his statements clearly contradict each other"
    "The law of contradiction in things, that is, the law of the unity of opposites, is the basic law of materialist dialectics. Lenin said, "Dialectics in the proper sense is the study of contradiction in the very essence of objects." Lenin often called this law the essence of dialectics; he also called it the kernel of dialectics. In studying this law, therefore, we cannot but touch upon a variety of questions, upon a number of philosophical problems. If we can become clear on all these problems, we shall arrive at a fundamental understanding of materialist dialectics. The problems are: the two world outlooks, the universality of contradiction, the particularity of contradiction, the principal contradiction and the principal aspect of a contradiction, the identity and struggle of the aspects of a contradiction, and the place of antagonism in contradiction".
    From Mao Tse-tung – 'On Contradiction'.
    You just have to find the right words Dylan….even finger clicking can be a form of Prophetic Intercession which intentionality is involved.
    This has come to the public gaze of the Internet so…this is going to be VERY foolish.
    I sometimes use form of Russian Orthodox Prophetic method called the 'Holy Fool!' – the practice of IURODSTVO. There is a definite and very precise method in the seeming madness.There is a tradition in both Greek and Russian Orthodoxy of the 'Holy Fool' who functions in a similar capacity to Ezekiel in challenging all our perceptions – a form of radical prophetic figure who subverts the normative to release the revelatory. You may be interested in this weblink: http://www.slavdom.com/index.php?id=35These are the opening remarks from the article:

    Quote:

  9. Dylan
    Always like to throw a drowning man a lifeline…or two.
    The Universe is closed.Use the Rainbow.
    If you cannot see the LORD Jesus Christ in every grain of sand, you will never see Eternity in a pebble.

  10. He responded with an excerpt of Mao Tse-tung's "on Contradiction" and In Dialectics they are talking about the contradictions which cause an argument or object to hold together (such as the forces pushing outwards on the lectrons of an atom vs the forces pushin inwards preventing them from flying away). I would hesitate to lump yourself in at all with Russian Orthodoxy, considering other blog entries I have made… ie MoscowI am familiar with the concept of the Holy Fool. Thus far I haven't seen you feign madness. I've seen you feigning to answer the questions I pose. I've read you waxing lyrical about irrelevant items. (IURODSTVO, for example.) I challenge you, and in an effort to actually gain an answer, I tell you, you are in the eyes of God, and lies-by-omission are lies as well. To deceive is to follow the Deceiver, and to answer with truth is to follow the Truth. Follow The Truth, and reveal to me that which I seek. simple, un-jargonistic answers to the simple, unjargonistic questions I posed to you.This is -my- final response on the matter.I give up, not because you have actually said anything convincing. Or actually addressed anything I have said.

    I give up because I haven't seen anything that makes an iota of sense
    that also has any relevance to the conversation. I thus conclude that I
    never will.

  11. Dylan
    Try SIGHING and GROANING it is a form of Prayer, a very deep form of Prayer.
    Romans 8:26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express.
    Now, if I connect the dominant left-brain to the sub dominant right brain and then send an energy bolt of Prayer from his spirit right up through his soul – the BIG question is whether he will LIGHT up and really shine? mmmmm…..Prophecy is Energy and Energy is Prophecy.
    Be Anointed.
    Mark

  12. There's a saying.. something about arguing.. and idiots.. and going down to certain levels.. and them kicking your arse with experience.. I forget what it is exactly 😉

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